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Post by Simon Bourne on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:21 pm

A few groups that go around the server RPKing people is going to turn us in a DM server.

Seriously? Tanya_Smith quit today thanks to Moriarty, Kieran , Sean and the other guys in the group because you RPK everything you want in the server.
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Post by Kyol Daniels on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:27 pm

Hmm...
No Aless Was going to RPK Tanya anyway, so we acctually helped her.
And i like the fact that every time something happens you dont like,
You post in here about a rule to change it.
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Post by Lloyd McFadden on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:38 pm

We where not going to RPK her to start, but she decided "OOh a big black van, Lets look inside" And then begins firing inside the van, from which we where sat. Would you let someone possible kill you just because your in a Mysterous van?
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Post by Midnight on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:40 pm

Yeah,I had a full IC reason to kill her,but my first intention was to detain her and forcing infos out of her,but she reacted then the other guys (not in my team or anything,I was acting by myself) killed her.

I'm not sure about other RPK with no reason you're talking about,but...If you have SS to prove it show them,while you're In-Game reprot them...easy enough.

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Post by Simon Bourne on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:42 pm

Still, you guys go around the server RPKing everyone that you don't like or find an excuse to kill them.
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Post by Sam Akabara on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:44 pm

We had no intention of killing her in the first place.
We were just scaring people using the "hide in a black scary van" method when she comes up and decides that SHE needs to look inside. And how does she do this? Wait for the vehicles owner to return to his legally parked van? No. She decides to get her DESERT EAGLE.50 and SHOOT into the van, just becuase she can't get through the LOCKED door. (Is that even legal? Becuase i somehow doubt that it is. Scratch that. It's NOT legal)
What are supposed to do? Sit around and get shot. It's my first amendment right to shoot anyone who invades my property.
Police can't go around shooting into things becuase they dont like the look of them.

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Post by Midnight on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:46 pm

M_Bourne wrote:Still, you guys go around the server RPKing everyone that you don't like or find an excuse to kill them.

If there is a IC reason,they are able to.
Besides,don't complain about your last RPK.You was in the middle of the action,while there were armed guys...Normally you would hide or escape,but you stood there and then don't complain if you got RPKed.

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Post by Simon Bourne on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:53 pm

No one RPK'd me, but still, keep these factions RPK at minimal, next time just try to KO people, not RPK or Script kill.
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Post by Midnight on Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:21 pm

M_Bourne wrote:No one RPK'd me, but still, keep these factions RPK at minimal, next time just try to KO people, not RPK or Script kill.

Don't lie on me,I saw you were RPKed,I was there too...

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:26 pm

If you want to arguing about something/someone just post on Complaint About Player .

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Post by Simon Bourne on Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:47 pm

I'm not lying, Kieran said i got RPK'd because i didin't answer, i didin't got RPK'd, end of story.
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Post by Neon Router on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:31 pm

M_Bourne wrote:No one RPK'd me, but still, keep these factions RPK at minimal, next time just try to KO people, not RPK or Script kill.
Bolded the most important phrase for the best roleplay.
People are obviously insensitive to others and treat them like any pedestrians in SA. "Its alright if they die, They'l respawn."
This is a very stupid idea that a lot of people have on SAMP. They don't realize that they must make roleplays fun for both sides of the story.
Besides, you all don't realize why eveyone calls this a "DM" server.
I'll explain why by using examples on my server experience.

If you try make a conversation, you'r attacked.
If you try to just walk around, your attacked.
If you try just staying at your home AFK, your garage is burnt without your consent.
If you try to make a event, everyone wants to screw it up by you (killing the person making the event) with no reason.
If you try be creative, everyone wants to hunt you down so that they will remain the most special.
Basically, people who want to just make a normal civilized roleplay have their fun fucked in the arse by some gun or katana holding twats who have no idea on being realistic.

In real life,
I make conversations, I get normal responses.
I walk around, no one takes notice of me and carries on.
I'm at my house, I don't have people setting my garage on fire just cause it has something interesting.
When I make a event, people try to participate. (Not always.)
When I try be creative, people appreciate or just don't respond.

Get the hint?

The bare fact that people just kill all the time on this server make it unrealistic.
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Post by Simon Bourne on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:42 pm

The Constipator wrote:
M_Bourne wrote:No one RPK'd me, but still, keep these factions RPK at minimal, next time just try to KO people, not RPK or Script kill.
Bolded the most important phrase for the best roleplay.
People are obviously insensitive to others and treat them like any pedestrians in SA. "Its alright if they die, They'l respawn."
This is a very stupid idea that a lot of people have on SAMP. They don't realize that they must make roleplays fun for both sides of the story.
Besides, you all don't realize why eveyone calls this a "DM" server.
I'll explain why by using examples on my server experience.

If you try make a conversation, you'r attacked.
If you try to just walk around, your attacked.
If you try just staying at your home AFK, your garage is burnt without your consent.
If you try to make a event, everyone wants to screw it up by you (killing the person making the event) with no reason.
If you try be creative, everyone wants to hunt you down so that they will remain the most special.
Basically, people who want to just make a normal civilized roleplay have their fun fucked in the arse by some gun or katana holding twats who have no idea on being realistic.

In real life,
I make conversations, I get normal responses.
I walk around, no one takes notice of me and carries on.
I'm at my house, I don't have people setting my garage on fire just cause it has something interesting.
When I make a event, people try to participate. (Not always.)
When I try be creative, people appreciate or just don't respond.

Get the hint?

The bare fact that people just kill all the time on this server make it unrealistic.

It's good to have you back bro.

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People needs to STOP KILLING PEOPLE AND TRY TO USE NON LETHAL TAKEDOWNS!
Sean_Phelps wanted to RPK me today because "I'm a witness", WHO THE FUCK CARES!?
Next time use vampire strength to K.O or Stun people, not chop their head off or rip their balls off.
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Post by Tommy on Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:05 pm

Haha yeah Bishop that's a funny part. Sean wanted to RPK me too for being a witness, you know where he killed the guy? On top of a freaking roof next to the bank.
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Post by Sean Phelps on Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:46 pm

Yeah... I love to be a nuisance or a dick ICly. Though, i have to obey Hikari's commands though.
Bishop. You should stop bitching about every thing you don't like.

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Post by Simon Bourne on Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Mental Note: Sean knows too much.... >.>
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Post by Kevin Alymer on Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:41 pm

I don't get what's wrong with having a group trying to RPK people, it adds better atmosphere to the server as you have to be careful and watch where you step as long as it's not done in public. That's one of the points of the server, it's a dangerous town at night or in dark alleys. I've been rpked and accepted it with no problem tbh as icly people wanted to go around killing and they found me which is totally following roleplay rules. Sometimes you can't fight, but you can hide or run drive or stay in a car adn call the cops. I it interesting having to be careful around the streets at night. And if both sides don't enjoy the rp then they can find a way for both sides to enjoy it.


Non offical dm factions? What does that have to do with RPK?
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Post by Simon Bourne on Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:42 pm

Yeah and then the hole server starts to RPK eachother untill they get tired of it and quit.

Keep RPK's at minimal, and don't go around looking for an excuse to kill.
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Post by Neon Router on Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:49 pm

M_Bourne wrote:Yeah and then the hole server starts to RPK eachother untill they get tired of it and quit.

Keep RPK's at minimal, and don't go around looking for an excuse to kill.
^This
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Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:12 am

M_Bourne wrote:Yeah and then the hole server starts to RPK eachother untill they get tired of it and quit.

Keep RPK's at minimal, and don't go around looking for an excuse to kill.


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Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:17 am

M_Bourne wrote:Yeah and then the hole server starts to RPK eachother untill they get tired of it and quit.

Keep RPK's at minimal, and don't go around looking for an excuse to kill.

Not really, you need an IC reason to RPK and you have to consider different things like the cops maybe finding out, witnessess. You would have to be alone at night to even get attacked and you can avoid it as I mentioned before. Tbh it's not really RP for humans to go around kill unless they want to rob in which they don't really have to kill. You don't just go shoot people around as you have to roleplay the fear from the police and more. For wolves, vampires they might have an IC reason to do it, but it is limited to them too because they want to keep their identity secret. In real life in a situation like this of course it would be dangerous, and you can't just roleplay walking alone around the place. All these limits, and all the ways to avoid RPK can't allow people to get rpked all the time. And not everyone will have a good IC reason ti kill all the time, they wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble.
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Post by Simon Bourne on Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:35 am

Kevin wrote:
M_Bourne wrote:Yeah and then the hole server starts to RPK eachother untill they get tired of it and quit.

Keep RPK's at minimal, and don't go around looking for an excuse to kill.

Not really, you need an IC reason to RPK and you have to consider different things like the cops maybe finding out, witnessess. You would have to be alone at night to even get attacked and you can avoid it as I mentioned before. Tbh it's not really RP for humans to go around kill unless they want to rob in which they don't really have to kill. You don't just go shoot people around as you have to roleplay the fear from the police and more. For wolves, vampires they might have an IC reason to do it, but it is limited to them too because they want to keep their identity secret. In real life in a situation like this of course it would be dangerous, and you can't just roleplay walking alone around the place. All these limits, and all the ways to avoid RPK can't allow people to get rpked all the time. And not everyone will have a good IC reason ti kill all the time, they wouldn't want to risk getting in trouble.

Yeah but people just makes up stupid excuses like: "Oh, you were punching my friend, now i take my Katana and turn you into a Sushi Bowl".

Or: "You called me what?" Bang, head chopped off.
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Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:44 am

You can't really do that in public, and you wouldn't risk making your weapon a murder weapons people with abilities would want to keep it a secret.

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Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:50 am

And there's when you have to roleplay the entire thing. You can't really kill a person for such a small reason because you are risking being withnessed and getting in trouble by the police. You just have to be realistic. What would happen in real life. If you're walking alone in the alley at night, to be honest you are asking for something bad to happen to you. Whether the person decides to rpk or not is their choice.

At day it can happen in places with no people around but it's even harder as the person can shout for help in which people would try to leave to avoid the cops. Now without RPK being possible then players would have nothing to fear and it would cause other problems.

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Post by Simon Bourne on Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:15 am

You can't do it in public?

Mia/Tanya Smith quit the server because Hikari, Moriarty, Phelps , Irving and some other people RPK'd her at the middle of the street infront of the bank, so the "You can't do it in public" thing is ignored here a lot.
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