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Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Outcast on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:45 am

Well, I like script fights and I prefer them more then RP fights. I'll try to keep neutral and I'll point out the pros and cons of both script fighting and RP fighting.

Script fighting:

Why is it better?

Script fighting is better because it gives players some sense of power (like having M4 and the opponent has a Colt 45). It is fun and all the /b(itching) is avoided because it is harder to make RP situations unclear. Also, the whole purpose of Ammunation and script-wise weapons is fulfilled. Powergaming is avoided in most of the cases. At last, most of the players are more happy because the gameplay is more dynamic, faster and action-packed. EMS will actually have something to do, the whole point of hospital and hospital bills wouldn't be for shit (as it is now). People would suffer consequences for their action (financial as for hospital bills, loosing weapons etc.). Server wouldn't be so dead like it is through most of the time, when people just AFK around and wait for their paychecks.

Why it is not better?

It can cause an increase in DM, but let's be honest. Anyone who wants to DM will not give a fuck about the rules, are the script fighting allowed or not. Also, people may complain because of the death bills and loss of weapons when dieing. Vampires may not like this too, because it would be harder for them to use RP powers (why not using autohotkey for it?). Also, the bugs can be exploited (like quick shooting etc.), but you can always report the player exploiting it.

Roleplay Fights

Why is it better?

Less refund requests and less DM from other players. A better way for vampires to use their powers on people. Some people like it because they don't want to be bothered to shoot, or they lack lag-shooting skills. Also, it avoids bug exploiting.

Why it is not better?

It destroys the whole point of GTA. The gameplay is more boring, monotone and not interesting at all. People can PG (like buying a colt 45 with one bullet and then RPly kill people around with it, without scriptly firing a single bullet). Also, most of the people RPs to win, players with lower English skills don't stand a chance against more experienced players. The whole point of holding your weapon in your hands is lost, cops have problems with stopping the suspects who are armed and more OOC fights occur because some people type slower than the others. Also, if someone is running there's no way to stop someone, because while you type it out, the other player will be 3 blocks away.


Conclusion

Why not bringing it back like it used to be? When you had less than 25 HP you had to do /fall animation and you were hurt. It was more fun, things were going on. Gangs were formed, police, EMS and FBI had something to do. There was less PG from vampires and werewolves, and humans. Deathmatching through a bunch of /me's, /do's and /coin's is same as holding a left mouse button and firing your AK-47. People will always kill for no reason. I know the management is afraid that the quality of the server will fall, but we need some new players. Even the existing ones are not satisfied with the situation. Keeping it this way, just supports the small minority who RPs to win and hates losing their e-money.



Thank you for reading this suggestion, please think about it and post a serious, good answer. Please refrain from posting "support it sucks now" or "fuck that keep it like this" type of answers. Also, I would like to keep this as a discussion so please do not lock this topic.

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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Sam Andersun on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:59 am

This is an RP server, not a DM server. If you want to script people go to a DM server. Scripting with permission was put into effect for that exact reason. Obviously with any gun people can shoot someone and it's gonna do serious damage, no matter if it's a Colt, Deagle, shotgun, rifle whatever. Scripting without permission was a total fuckfest. /Nosupport.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:00 am

I was really active when script fighting was there. People stopped rping and the level of RP dropped down by a lot. Now it is improving and we don't have as much reports on script fightings, or people powergaming and so on. Script fighting in a small town is not a good thing, people aren't even supposed to have a lot of weapons. Cops do have them so I don't see a problem with them.

Also in script fighting, people will shoot each other in public, for the smallest of the reasons, so no in my opinion. The RP level is increasing without script fighting as people SHOULD roleplay rather than result to their OOC skills.

This server is a strict RP server, you have to know how to RP else you shouldn't be here. If you RP to win, you get punished and people have to learn that now. With script fighting they will not learn and just use script fighting instead, not bothering to RP.

In script fighting there are a lot of other factors too. Ping, yes it is a very BIG factor, OOC skills of a person, weapons that people probably got in a non RP way etc.

This is a town, fighting should be not that often or not in public. We are not allowing /b whining while in fights anymore, and we are punishing for people who RP for the win. SD in particular can script fight people if they don't respond to rps because SD deals with these issues a lot and are the ones who deal with crimes.


So in my opinion it's not worth it. Things are much better now and if a person doesn't give permission it means they don't enjoy it and they prefer to RP which is what this is all about.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Raiden Akimoto on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:09 am

To be honest, I do like Script Fight but you cant just walk towards someone and says Hi and then punch them. I do prefer RP attempt to punch and then script fight.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Outcast on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:26 am

Well, adding a rule for meelee/no-weapons combat where you have to RP fight would solve that. I don't mind it, but weapons should be shot, not just held.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Kevin Alymer on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:28 am

You can shoot after your RP attempt has been succesful but not to the point the person gets under 25hp.

EDIT: Good rpers can organize script fights together.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Matt Mercer on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:55 am

About the M4 feeling empowerd part..
Deagle is quite possible the strongest weapon in the game. In the time it takes to kill someone with an ak-47. you could have killed 1 person and take another persons health half way down. and it's Very accessable and affordable, unlike one of the bigger guns
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Raiden Akimoto on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:05 pm

I thought we dont need to attempt when using firearms. :/
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Sonerin on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:49 pm

Raiden Dragneel wrote:I thought we dont need to attempt when using firearms. :/

You don't need to attempt anything.


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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Raiden Akimoto on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:56 pm

Sonerin wrote:
Raiden Dragneel wrote:I thought we dont need to attempt when using firearms. :/

You don't need to attempt at anything.

Is that means I can come towards you and say Hi and punch you? Very Happy
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Sonerin on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:58 pm

Raiden Dragneel wrote:
Sonerin wrote:
Raiden Dragneel wrote:I thought we dont need to attempt when using firearms. :/

You don't need to attempt at anything.

Is that means I can come towards you and say Hi and punch you? Very Happy

As long as you have a proper reason to attack your victim, you can.
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Re: Bringing back script fighting without permission

Post by Jericho Phelps on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:21 pm

Even the existing ones are not satisfied with the situation.
WHo?

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